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Graafen ([personal profile] graafen) wrote2005-09-13 09:47 am

Fuel

As the fuel prices in this country continue to climb rumours are starting to fly around that another fuel protest is immenent. Speaking with my work colleagues it seems there are mixed feelings about this, with quite a few not wanting this to happen because they are too dependant on their cars.

So I put this to you, if we don't protest what do we do instead? How can we force the goverment to reduce the tax on fuel?

[identity profile] rustyfox.livejournal.com 2005-09-13 09:06 am (UTC)(link)
The government cry, correctly, that this is a global problem. I haven't heard any acknowledgement yet of the extra bonus £££££££££'s raked in from current duty and VAT from a 'world crisis'. Greedy bastards can easilly lighten the load, I'm sure.

I was on the fence for a while but overall I'm for the protests, if they happen - I think most of this is media hype. As you say, if we don't take direct action, what do we do? Moan about it quietly over a cup of tea, that's what!

We need a government that promotes future fuels. Me? I won't notice a fuel crisis - veg oil gets me from A to B :)

[identity profile] fionacat.livejournal.com 2005-09-13 09:07 am (UTC)(link)
Mass conversion to Autogas.

Get people to do it supercheap for a week, get as many folks using Autogas as possible.
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[identity profile] nidonocu.livejournal.com 2005-09-13 09:13 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm... I'd say write to your local MP as a collective group and actually see what they their view is and what action might be good to take actually. o.O

[identity profile] darac.livejournal.com 2005-09-13 09:20 am (UTC)(link)
I like the idea that, because there are rumours of panic buying at the pumps, people are going out and... panic buying :) It was rather surprising to see queues out onto the road as I came home to Brum last night.

As to your question, I would suggest moving to the point where petrol isn't such a money-spinner for the government. If only a few hundred or a few thousand litres of petrol are sold every year, then there's little point in having a 60% tax on it, is there?

[identity profile] shep-shepherd.livejournal.com 2005-09-13 09:35 am (UTC)(link)

Reduce fuel duty, then find something VAT-free to put VAT on?

[identity profile] garrwolfdog.livejournal.com 2005-09-13 09:58 am (UTC)(link)
but as for a better way to get the government's attention?,........ hmmmmmmmmmmm,..... get me lots of sulphur, salt-peter and charchoal and meet me near westminster bridge with abox of matches on november 5th
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[identity profile] schnee.livejournal.com 2005-09-13 12:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Buy more fuel-efficient cars?

Why do you *want* to reduce the tax on fuel, anyway? If you're causing a problem (pollution, greenhouse effect etc. in this case), then it's your obligation to pay for the remedy.

The way to go is not to reduce taxes; the way to go is to reduce fuel consumption and the effects it has.

[identity profile] kaysho.livejournal.com 2005-09-20 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Sensible governments (i.e. governments who want to accomplish the feathers and hissing thing) know to tax things most heavily that "people will buy anyway", like petrol or smokes or booze. So give 'em a little individual protest and buy less petrol, price elasticity of demand be damned! :)